
The first one is size 30 Melamine HDT from Tarnished Tatter and the second one is DMC size 80 HDT in Tuscany from LadyShuttleMaker
The quarter is for size comparison.
by itself, it is o.k. but if I wanted to add beads, I would need to strengthen the motif. either by using some sort of stiffening after it was made or by tatting over a core of wire as Iris Neibach does. click here for Iris's website, you will find the instructions for tatting over a wire core on the left side of this page.